Hi everyone,
I have a question: what constitutes an organic home garden? There are many rules for commercial growers to become "certified organic." I predominately use seeds that are labeled organic, and I don't use any pesticides or any other types of garden chemicals and only organic fertilizers...is that all there is to having an organic garden?
Thanks,
Jennifer
704 Penn Rd
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Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 12:56:02 -0400
From: Ginger Deason <gdeason@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Gardening] Introductions?
To: Gardening <gardening@eastraleigh.org>
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Hey Everyone!
I agree, this is a great thread! And a great listserv!
My name is Ginger Deason and my husband and I have lived in East Raleigh for
almost two years (but were gone for 1.5 yr in the middle - we just came
back!). I have had a backyard garden of some form for about five years, but
gardened a LOT with my dad when I was growing up in rural Alabama. For years
I have worked in some form or fashion in outreach and education associated
with sustainable agriculture or forestry and community gardening, so I have
a lot of "book knowledge" and courses behind me, although I often still feel
like a novice! There's always something to learn!
I am a perpetual student of John Jeavons' Biointensive
Gardening<http://www.growbiointensive.org/>and still have quite a way
to go since we were gone last year, which would
have been the third year into my garden. I kinda had to start all over this
year, but it's not been too hard. My focus right now is on diversified
veggies, mainly ones that I know we will eat all of. I plan on getting some
fruit trees, but that might be a year or so down the road. The tornado has
given us a lot more sun in the back yard so I also plan on expanding my
garden, also down the road. And adding some chickens (also down the road!).
The bike tour idea is a great one! I'd be into that! And I was the one who
suggested an East Raleigh Urban Garden tour and a couple of people have
emailed me (gdeason@gmail.com) to say they were interested in helping plan.
If you are interested and haven't emailed me yet, please do!
Have a great day!
Ginger
2319 Stevens
PS: I LOVE birds too and am trying my best to make my yard as bird friendly
as possible. We have a nest of baby bluebirds in a box that's close enough
to the deck to hear! They're awesome and will probably fledge around
Memorial Day weekend, so come on over if you want to see some babies blues!
PPS: The Center for Environmental Farming Systems
(CEFS<http://www.cefs.ncsu.edu/>)
has many courses on gardening/farming/animal husbandry throughout the year.
They're located in Goldsboro, so it's a hike, but check out their calendar
if you're interested and maybe if people ever want to attend a course we
could carpool. Most courses are cheap to free and there's one on On-Farm
Habitat for Ecosystem Services (May 25) which may or may not be appropriate
for smaller-scale urban gardens, but I might look into it. And it's free!
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Ryan Parker <kennethryanparker@gmail.com>wrote:
> Fellow garden geeks,
>
> I live on Drew St., which is in the area commonly referred to as "the other
> side of Mordecai" in local CAC meetings. I have lived in this house for 7
> years and have planted many shrubs and flowers around on our one tenth of an
> acre. I also have a dedicated vegetable garden that is subdivided into five
> semi-raised beds and a compost bin. Three of the beds are 4'x4', two are
> 4'x6' and the compost bin is also 4'x4'. This year's crop features the
> following:
>
> (4) Jalapeno Peppers
> (4) Sweet Banana Peppers
> (4) Better Boy Tomatoes
> (4) Sweet Basil
> (10) Bush Bean
> (4) Cantaloupe
> (4) Burpless Cucumber
>
> All plants came from the farmer's market in either 4 or 6 packs and were
> planted the weekend of Earth Day (as per tradition) except for 6 bush bean
> plants which I planted this week. All beds are separated with a rock path
> made of small smooth river jack gravel. This area of the yard I refer to as
> the "South Garden." The perimeter of this section has ligustrum japonicum
> shrubs for a privette (non-native) and an abelia. The edge of our patio is
> home to three varities of knock out roses (red, pink and yellow) that are in
> their second year and now in full bloom.
>
> The front facade of the house (or the "North Garden") has a Kleim's Hearty
> gardenia, Pink Snowball azalea, a shrubby yew pine, and a leland cypress
> (which I am considering up rooting and replacing with a japanese maple, so
> *free leland cypress with a one year in-ground rooting system is up for
> grabs*.
>
> Although I try to keep the garden organic, I can see when the plants are
> nutrient poor and I can readily correct their shortcomings with Miracle
> Grow's 10-35-10 or fish emulsion 5-1-1. When plants are in the final stages
> of their fruit producing cycle I use only fish emulsion. The only time I
> use 7 dust or a pesticide is when I see the evil horned tomato worms
> devouring my plants. I also use a supplement that prevents blossom rot.
>
> I keep a garden journal so I can see the progress of certain plants and get
> a handle on watering cyles. Plus it's also great to see how the garden has
> evolved.
>
> I hope that we can plan a floating party sometime during the summer that
> would allow us to tour each other's garden's and show off our hard work.
>
> Thanks
> Ryan
>
>
> On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Hope Rollins <hrollins1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sarah Jessica and others,
>>
>> Good to see you on the list serve. Sounds like you have some great ideas.
>>
>> I live in Oakwood. I have several raised beds. Had poor luck with even
>> tomatoes last year. Frequently, something got to them before I was able to
>> bring them in.
>>
>> However, I am having great luck with lavender, herbs, knockout roses, and
>> perennials. Also, I have pond with 2 koi, 2 gold fish and recent
>> purchased
>> 3 bullfrog fish. I am looking forward to hearing about everyone's
>> successes
>> and frustrations in the garden.
>>
>> Hope Rollins
>> 326 Oakwood Ave.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gardening-bounces@eastraleigh.org
>> [mailto:gardening-bounces@eastraleigh.org] On Behalf Of SJF
>> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 12:09 AM
>> To: Gardening
>> Subject: Re: [Gardening] Introductions?
>>
>> Hey gang!
>>
>> I am new to North Carolina gardening. I had a big garden in my
>> parents' backyard about 15 years ago where I grew lilacs, roses,
>> lilies (Asiatic type and hemerocallis) and penstemon and Jacob's
>> ladder, among other things. I'm really surprised I can remember
>> everything I had growing back there! Well, here I am, still a renter
>> 15 years later and I can't put off gardening until I buy a home.
>>
>> This year I'm working on creating some front perennial beds. I am
>> also thinking about starting a veggie garden out back using straw
>> bales to create a raised bed (and to give the baby vegetables a bit of
>> a buffer from my three rowdy dogs). I'm late to that particular game
>> so I'll probably head to the farmer's market for some starter plants.
>>
>> I prefer to use organic gardening methods, I'm beginning to think even
>> a nuclear-type toxin could not eliminate the poison ivy that is
>> winding its way around the pine tree in my backyard. I didn't have
>> many problems in NJ with pests or disease -- there is a reason they
>> call that place the garden state - and I am keeping my fingers crossed
>> that the dirt here is also kind to me. I try to swap plants when I
>> can (I might have some spare irises soon) and to choose species that
>> spread rather than specimens that are higher maintenance. I have a
>> baby compost pile that I hope to get some good use out of this summer,
>> so your composting tips are most welcome. I have lots to learn and
>> hope to soon have lots to share as well!
>>
>> Sarah Jessica ("SJ")
>> 213 Dennis
>>
>>
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Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 15:43:36 -0400
From: Vanessa Van Horn <vanhorn.vanessa@gmail.com>
Subject: [Gardening] Growing taters
To: Gardening <gardening@eastraleigh.org>
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I have never grown potatoes before, any advice? I know to keep them away from tomatoes.
This winter I was inspired by Alys Fowler's BBC show, The Edible Garden. She used grass clippings instead of soil to mound over the leaves as they grew and planted fingerlings in pots.
Thanks a bunch,
Vanessa
If it is a rose, it will come into bloom sooner or later.
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 15:36:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Timberley Valentine <boyandgirlcats@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Gardening] Gardening Digest, Vol 1, Issue 11
To: gardening@eastraleigh.org
Cc: Timberley Valentine <boyandgirlcats@yahoo.com>
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Hi Ya'll,?? My name is Timberley Valentine.? I am currently living with my mother who has Alzheimer's, she was diagnosed back in 2002.? I am trying once again this year to grow vegetables.? I have had little success, I definately don't have a green thumb, but would love to? have one.? The only plants I haven't killed are a christmas catcus my daddy and step-mother gave me three years ago for my 48th birthday, and a snake plant my aunt gave me after my father died last June.? I want to plant herbs and flowers in my front yard,? a vegetable garden in the back, a rose garden down the sides of the house and on one side of my backyard.? I also would love to have a tent with a table and chairs in the middle of the backyard for entertaing.? I plan of sometime setting up an in one of the rose gardens where I can do Reiki on anyone who wants it.? I am studying to be a holistic practioner.? I would love to have about 5 or more clients that would pay
$20.00 a week for as many Reiki sessions as they like.? If anyone out there doesn't know what Reiki is I'll be glad to give a free demo.? I live at 1412 Marlborough??Road, and my e-mail is boyandgirlcats@yahoo.com.? I hope to meet everyone soon.? Timberley???????????????????????????????????????
--- On Sun, 5/15/11, gardening-request@eastraleigh.org <gardening-request@eastraleigh.org> wrote:
From: gardening-request@eastraleigh.org <gardening-request@eastraleigh.org>
Subject: Gardening Digest, Vol 1, Issue 11
To: gardening@eastraleigh.org
Date: Sunday, May 15, 2011, 12:00 PM
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 00:08:54 -0400
From: SJF <sarah.farber@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Gardening] Introductions?
To: Gardening <gardening@eastraleigh.org>
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Hey gang!
I am new to North Carolina gardening.? I had a big garden in my?
parents' backyard about 15 years ago where I grew lilacs, roses,?
lilies (Asiatic type and hemerocallis) and penstemon and Jacob's?
ladder, among other things.? I'm really surprised I can remember?
everything I had growing back there!? Well, here I am, still a renter?
15 years later and I can't put off gardening until I buy a home.
This year I'm working on creating some front perennial beds.? I am?
also thinking about starting a veggie garden out back using straw?
bales to create a raised bed (and to give the baby vegetables a bit of?
a buffer from my three rowdy dogs).? I'm late to that particular game?
so I'll probably head to the farmer's market for some starter plants.
I prefer to use organic gardening methods, I'm beginning to think even?
a nuclear-type toxin could not eliminate the poison ivy that is?
winding its way around the pine tree in my backyard.? I didn't have?
many problems in NJ with pests or disease -- there is a reason they?
call that place the garden state - and I am keeping my fingers crossed?
that the dirt here is also kind to me.? I try to swap plants when I?
can (I might have some spare irises soon) and to choose species that?
spread rather than specimens that are higher maintenance.? I have a?
baby compost pile that I hope to get some good use out of this summer,?
so your composting tips are most welcome.? I have lots to learn and?
hope to soon have lots to share as well!
Sarah Jessica ("SJ")
213 Dennis
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 08:30:40 -0400
From: "Hope Rollins" <hrollins1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Gardening] Introductions?
To: "'Gardening'" <gardening@eastraleigh.org>
Message-ID: <F781826614764DF1B62237C365EECEB6@HopePC>
Content-Type: text/plain;??? charset="us-ascii"
Hi Sarah Jessica and others,
Good to see you on the list serve.? Sounds like you have some great ideas.
I live in Oakwood.? I have several raised beds.? Had poor luck with even
tomatoes last year. Frequently, something got to them before I was able to
bring them in.
However, I am having great luck with lavender, herbs, knockout roses, and
perennials.? Also, I have pond with 2 koi, 2 gold fish and recent purchased
3 bullfrog fish. I am looking forward to hearing about everyone's successes
and frustrations in the garden.
Hope Rollins
326 Oakwood Ave.
-----Original Message-----
From: gardening-bounces@eastraleigh.org
[mailto:gardening-bounces@eastraleigh.org] On Behalf Of SJF
Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 12:09 AM
To: Gardening
Subject: Re: [Gardening] Introductions?
Hey gang!
I am new to North Carolina gardening.? I had a big garden in my?
parents' backyard about 15 years ago where I grew lilacs, roses,?
lilies (Asiatic type and hemerocallis) and penstemon and Jacob's?
ladder, among other things.? I'm really surprised I can remember?
everything I had growing back there!? Well, here I am, still a renter?
15 years later and I can't put off gardening until I buy a home.
This year I'm working on creating some front perennial beds.? I am?
also thinking about starting a veggie garden out back using straw?
bales to create a raised bed (and to give the baby vegetables a bit of?
a buffer from my three rowdy dogs).? I'm late to that particular game?
so I'll probably head to the farmer's market for some starter plants.
I prefer to use organic gardening methods, I'm beginning to think even?
a nuclear-type toxin could not eliminate the poison ivy that is?
winding its way around the pine tree in my backyard.? I didn't have?
many problems in NJ with pests or disease -- there is a reason they?
call that place the garden state - and I am keeping my fingers crossed?
that the dirt here is also kind to me.? I try to swap plants when I?
can (I might have some spare irises soon) and to choose species that?
spread rather than specimens that are higher maintenance.? I have a?
baby compost pile that I hope to get some good use out of this summer,?
so your composting tips are most welcome.? I have lots to learn and?
hope to soon have lots to share as well!
Sarah Jessica ("SJ")
213 Dennis
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 09:01:35 -0400
From: Michelle C <michellelcz@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Gardening] Introductions?
To: Gardening <gardening@eastraleigh.org>
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This is fantastic! I am pleased to see so many shared interests and varied
experiences.
Recipes are always welcome! I'm not much of a cook but am trying to learn
(now that I have a kitchen with more than 2' of counter space.)
I hope to get some chickens in the future. (I figure I'd better get a handle
on general house and yard maintenance first.) And am also interested in
bees. I remember hearing that bee populations are so low, everyone who keeps
them helps.
I'm very interested in the urban permaculture movement - have been ever
since hearing Will Hooker give a talk about permaculture several years ago.
It's kind of what inspired me to actually get a house with a little yard
this time rather than another condo (used to live in the Cameron Village
Condos.)
I also have a tiny pond in the back with three goldfish. I know I still have
a lot to learn about maintaining it, too. After one of the fish was eaten
last fall, I've become more concerned about putting plants in there to give
them more places to hide.
And yes, I love watching the wild birds, too. I've found that the little
pond in the back is the greatest draw for them! So, I also have a few
feeders up and would like to give them a couple nesting sites with predator
guards in the future. I've seen bluebirds in the yard. I'm assuming it's
because fields aren't far away - between the athletic fields at St. Augs and
Oakwood Cemetery.
Thanks, everyone!
Michelle
714 Glascock
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Date: Sun, 15 May 2011 09:41:47 -0400
From: Ryan Parker <kennethryanparker@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Gardening] Introductions?
To: Gardening <gardening@eastraleigh.org>
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Fellow garden geeks,
I live on Drew St., which is in the area commonly referred to as "the other
side of Mordecai" in local CAC meetings.? I have lived in this house for 7
years and have planted many shrubs and flowers around on our one tenth of an
acre.? I also have a dedicated vegetable garden that is subdivided into five
semi-raised beds and a compost bin.? Three of the beds are 4'x4', two are
4'x6' and the compost bin is also 4'x4'.? This year's crop features the
following:
(4) Jalapeno Peppers
(4) Sweet Banana Peppers
(4) Better Boy Tomatoes
(4) Sweet Basil
(10) Bush Bean
(4) Cantaloupe
(4) Burpless Cucumber
All plants came from the farmer's market in either 4 or 6 packs and were
planted the weekend of Earth Day (as per tradition) except for 6 bush bean
plants which I planted this week.? All beds are separated with a rock path
made of small smooth river jack gravel.? This area of the yard I refer to as
the "South Garden."? The perimeter of this section has ligustrum japonicum
shrubs for a privette (non-native) and an abelia.? The edge of our patio is
home to three varities of knock out roses (red, pink and yellow) that are in
their second year and now in full bloom.
The front facade of the house (or the "North Garden") has a Kleim's Hearty
gardenia, Pink Snowball azalea, a shrubby yew pine, and a leland cypress
(which I am considering up rooting and replacing with a japanese
maple, so *free
leland cypress with a one year in-ground rooting system is up for grabs*.
Although I try to keep the garden organic, I can see when the plants are
nutrient poor and I can readily correct their shortcomings with Miracle
Grow's 10-35-10 or fish emulsion 5-1-1.? When plants are in the final stages
of their fruit producing cycle I use only fish emulsion.? The only time I
use 7 dust or a pesticide is when I see the evil horned tomato worms
devouring my plants.? I also use a supplement that prevents blossom rot.
I keep a garden journal so I can see the progress of certain plants and get
a handle on watering cyles.? Plus it's also great to see how the garden has
evolved.
I hope that we can plan a floating party sometime during the summer that
would allow us to tour each other's garden's and show off our hard work.
Thanks
Ryan
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Hope Rollins <hrollins1@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Sarah Jessica and others,
>
> Good to see you on the list serve.? Sounds like you have some great ideas.
>
> I live in Oakwood.? I have several raised beds.? Had poor luck with even
> tomatoes last year. Frequently, something got to them before I was able to
> bring them in.
>
> However, I am having great luck with lavender, herbs, knockout roses, and
> perennials.? Also, I have pond with 2 koi, 2 gold fish and recent purchased
> 3 bullfrog fish. I am looking forward to hearing about everyone's successes
> and frustrations in the garden.
>
> Hope Rollins
> 326 Oakwood Ave.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gardening-bounces@eastraleigh.org
> [mailto:gardening-bounces@eastraleigh.org] On Behalf Of SJF
> Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2011 12:09 AM
> To: Gardening
> Subject: Re: [Gardening] Introductions?
>
> Hey gang!
>
> I am new to North Carolina gardening.? I had a big garden in my
> parents' backyard about 15 years ago where I grew lilacs, roses,
> lilies (Asiatic type and hemerocallis) and penstemon and Jacob's
> ladder, among other things.? I'm really surprised I can remember
> everything I had growing back there!? Well, here I am, still a renter
> 15 years later and I can't put off gardening until I buy a home.
>
> This year I'm working on creating some front perennial beds.? I am
> also thinking about starting a veggie garden out back using straw
> bales to create a raised bed (and to give the baby vegetables a bit of
> a buffer from my three rowdy dogs).? I'm late to that particular game
> so I'll probably head to the farmer's market for some starter plants.
>
> I prefer to use organic gardening methods, I'm beginning to think even
> a nuclear-type toxin could not eliminate the poison ivy that is
> winding its way around the pine tree in my backyard.? I didn't have
> many problems in NJ with pests or disease -- there is a reason they
> call that place the garden state - and I am keeping my fingers crossed
> that the dirt here is also kind to me.? I try to swap plants when I
> can (I might have some spare irises soon) and to choose species that
> spread rather than specimens that are higher maintenance.? I have a
> baby compost pile that I hope to get some good use out of this summer,
> so your composting tips are most welcome.? I have lots to learn and
> hope to soon have lots to share as well!
>
> Sarah Jessica ("SJ")
> 213 Dennis
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Gardening@eastraleigh.org
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