Any sales at all, unfortunately. Our plan had been to grow at the Millbank property and sell some of the produce at a downtown farmer's market and the rest via a CSA at deep discounts for low-income people. The problem arose when we went to the city to check in on getting all the proper permits and licenses. They said they would not grant any permits to such an operation in a residential neighborhood in order to protect the community's residential character. In the conversations I had with city staff, I noted that I had a large garden at my own residential property and asked if I would be running afoul of city rules if I were to take the produce I was already growing there and sold it elsewhere; they told me that would indeed be a violation.

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Sarah Jessica <sarah.farber@gmail.com> wrote:
Sue,

I want to make sure I'm following you correctly.  I see that the city does not permit the sale of produce from your garden if your garden is zoned residential.  Does that mean on-site sales or any sales at all?  These might not be questions that you can answer. 

Do you suppose there would be a problem if the garden was structured like a coop, where owners got a shae?

Just thinking out loud here,

Sarah Jessica

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Sue Sturgis <suesturgis@gmail.com> wrote:
A piece of private land in the ECAC where a large community garden might be a possibility is the 3.45-acre property at 2210 Millbank Street, owned by Bhola and Radha Gupta. There is a ramshackle house on this lot that was badly damaged by the tornado; I'm guessing it will be torn down. Prior to the storm, I had a conversation with Mr. Gupta about renting the property for a nonprofit garden education project a friend and I were hoping to start, and Mr. Gupta was enthusiastic. However, my friend and I ran into difficulties getting necessarily permissions from the city, which scuttled our effort. A community garden where the produce wasn't being sold would not face the same problems we did, however. (Under Raleigh's current rules, you're allowed to garden in a residential zone, but you're not allowed to sell the produce you grow.)

Another thing that makes this property attractive for gardening is the fact that it has its own working well, though I would note that the well house was damaged in the storm. It is also a wide open piece of land with great sun exposure. But it does drain to a stream, so using organic methods would be essential.

It will be interesting to see what happens with this property now. There had been a proposal a few years back to have Habitat build some 27 townhouses there, but that deal fell through after the city raised objections to such intense development there. There were also issues relating to the tree ordinance.

Here's a link to the property tax information for the parcel:

http://services.wakegov.com/realestate/Account.asp?id=0033487&stype=addr&stnum=&stname=millbank&locidList=&spg=2

-- Sue Sturgis

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