8 Jan
2010
8 Jan
'10
9:20 a.m.
You raise a valid concern. At East, we may choose to ask our planner to
attend our zoning committee meeting rather than the full CAC, as his
expertise would definitely be useful there.
I suppose its up to the individual CAC chairs and the planners as to how
they can best work together.
Mark
East CAC
Linda Watson wrote:
I'm concerned about having three standard reports
at every CAC meeting,
taking up 15 - 30 minutes of time. At the Glenwood CAC meetings, the
Police and Parks & Rec reports are largely the same every meeting. It's
not an exciting way to start a meeting.
Add in the new zoning cases and any community discussion and we barely
have time for the feature presentations.
While I'm glad to have representatives from all three departments
available, perhaps it would be better to have them appear on the agenda
on an as-needed basis.
Could we could discuss this at the next RCAC meeting before changing all
of our agendas?
... Linda
Glenwood CAC
Patterson, Dwayne wrote:
RCAC Members,
Please note that the Planning Department has assigned staff planners
to each CAC. They are interested in having them added to the agendas
as we do with the Police and Parks & Recreation reports. I have
attached a copy of the assignments. Feel free to contact the planners
directly if you have specific items you wish to have them discuss.
Thanks.
Serving with Excellence,
Dwayne C. Patterson
Neighborhood Services Supervisor
Community Services Department
919.996.5710
Website: Community Services Homepage
<http://www.raleigh-nc.org/portal/server.pt/gateway/PTARGS_0_0_306_204_0_43/http;/pt03/dig_web_content/dept/public/Dept-AboutUs-ComSvcs.html>
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*From:* Silver, Mitchell
*Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:02 AM
*To:* Patterson, Dwayne
*Cc:* Rosselli, Kristen
*Subject:* Planners attending CAC meetings
Dwayne,
Could you tell your CAC staff reps that the planners will start
attending CAC meetings starting this evening. Each planner would like
to give a brief planning update at each meeting, similar to the RPD
updates. Thank you.
*/Mitchell Silver, PP, AICP/*
Director,
Department of City Planning & Urban Design Center
One Exchange Plaza, PO Box 590
Raleigh, NC 27602-0590
919.516.2625 phone
919.516.2684 fax
e-mail: mitchell.silver(a)ci.raleigh.nc.us
Department: www.raleighnc.gov/planning <http://www.raleighnc.gov/planning>
Comprehensive Plan: www.planningraleigh2030.com
<http://www.planningraleigh2030.com>
Zoning Code: www.NewRaleighCode.com
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8 Jan
8 Jan
9:33 a.m.
New subject: FW: Planners attending CAC meetings
If the Planning briefing is managed to be 10 minutes or less, I welcome it
at every meeting. I see the presence of a Planning Dept person as a good
communication conduit between us and them, too. They get a sense of what
our issues are; we can direct questions for Planning back through them.
Will
William A. Allen III
919-349-6566 Mobile
-----Original Message-----
From: rcac-bounces(a)eastraleigh.org [mailto:rcac-bounces@eastraleigh.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Turner
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:20 AM
To: RCAC Discussion
Subject: Re: [RCAC] FW: Planners attending CAC meetings
You raise a valid concern. At East, we may choose to ask our planner to
attend our zoning committee meeting rather than the full CAC, as his
expertise would definitely be useful there.
I suppose its up to the individual CAC chairs and the planners as to how
they can best work together.
Mark
East CAC
Linda Watson wrote:
_______________________________________________
RCAC mailing list
RCAC(a)eastraleigh.org
http://www.eastraleigh.org/mailman/listinfo/rcac
I'm concerned about having three standard reports
at every CAC meeting,
taking up 15 - 30 minutes of time. At the Glenwood CAC meetings, the
Police and Parks & Rec reports are largely the same every meeting. It's
not an exciting way to start a meeting.
Add in the new zoning cases and any community discussion and we barely
have time for the feature presentations.
While I'm glad to have representatives from all three departments
available, perhaps it would be better to have them appear on the agenda
on an as-needed basis.
Could we could discuss this at the next RCAC meeting before changing all
of our agendas?
... Linda
Glenwood CAC
Patterson, Dwayne wrote:
>
> RCAC Members,
>
>
>
> Please note that the Planning Department has assigned staff planners
> to each CAC. They are interested in having them added to the agendas
> as we do with the Police and Parks & Recreation reports. I have
> attached a copy of the assignments. Feel free to contact the planners
> directly if you have specific items you wish to have them discuss.
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Serving with Excellence,
>
> Dwayne C. Patterson
> Neighborhood Services Supervisor
> Community Services Department
> 919.996.5710
>
> Website: Community Services Homepage
>
<http://www.raleigh-nc.org/portal/server.pt/gateway/PTARGS_0_0_306_204_0_43/
http;/pt03/dig_web_content/dept/public/Dept-AboutUs-ComSvcs.html>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* Silver, Mitchell
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:02 AM
> *To:* Patterson, Dwayne
> *Cc:* Rosselli, Kristen
> *Subject:* Planners attending CAC meetings
>
>
>
> Dwayne,
>
>
>
> Could you tell your CAC staff reps that the planners will start
> attending CAC meetings starting this evening. Each planner would like
> to give a brief planning update at each meeting, similar to the RPD
> updates. Thank you.
>
>
>
> */Mitchell Silver, PP, AICP/*
>
> Director,
>
> Department of City Planning & Urban Design Center
>
> One Exchange Plaza, PO Box 590
>
> Raleigh, NC 27602-0590
>
> 919.516.2625 phone
>
> 919.516.2684 fax
>
> e-mail: mitchell.silver(a)ci.raleigh.nc.us
>
> Department: www.raleighnc.gov/planning
<http://www.raleighnc.gov/planning>
>
> Comprehensive Plan: www.planningraleigh2030.com
> <http://www.planningraleigh2030.com>
>
> Zoning Code: www.NewRaleighCode.com
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by
an authorized City or Law Enforcement official."
10:12 a.m.
New subject: FW: Planners attending CAC meetings
Having a planner at CAC meetings is a result of CAC discussions and requests
from a few years ago. (given that the comp. plan is done and the amount of
staff time needed to complete is over, they are now able to honor our
request)
It was discussed that there is a link missing between the planning
department and the CACs, as CAC chairs are not 'trained' on planning issues
and are not always made aware of important issues that could impact our
areas until it's too late.
Now it could meant that a particular agenda might not warrant a planner
being present, but in many instances discussions eventually work their way
around to some sort of planning/land use question or concern.
The Planning Department has worked hard to make this happen. I think it
might be helpful to find out what direction they have been given regarding
their attendance and participation.
Elizabeth
On 1/8/10 9:33 AM, "William A. Allen III" <will(a)allenheuer.com> wrote:
If the Planning briefing is managed to be 10 minutes
or less, I welcome it
at every meeting. I see the presence of a Planning Dept person as a good
communication conduit between us and them, too. They get a sense of what
our issues are; we can direct questions for Planning back through them.
Will
William A. Allen III
919-349-6566 Mobile
-----Original Message-----
From: rcac-bounces(a)eastraleigh.org [mailto:rcac-bounces@eastraleigh.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Turner
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:20 AM
To: RCAC Discussion
Subject: Re: [RCAC] FW: Planners attending CAC meetings
You raise a valid concern. At East, we may choose to ask our planner to
attend our zoning committee meeting rather than the full CAC, as his
expertise would definitely be useful there.
I suppose its up to the individual CAC chairs and the planners as to how
they can best work together.
Mark
East CAC
Linda Watson wrote:
_______________________________________________
RCAC mailing list
RCAC(a)eastraleigh.org
http://www.eastraleigh.org/mailman/listinfo/rcac
_______________________________________________
RCAC mailing list
RCAC(a)eastraleigh.org
http://www.eastraleigh.org/mailman/listinfo/rcac
I'm concerned about having three standard
reports at every CAC meeting,
taking up 15 - 30 minutes of time. At the Glenwood CAC meetings, the
Police and Parks & Rec reports are largely the same every meeting. It's
not an exciting way to start a meeting.
Add in the new zoning cases and any community discussion and we barely
have time for the feature presentations.
While I'm glad to have representatives from all three departments
available, perhaps it would be better to have them appear on the agenda
on an as-needed basis.
Could we could discuss this at the next RCAC meeting before changing all
of our agendas?
... Linda
Glenwood CAC
Patterson, Dwayne wrote:
>
> RCAC Members,
>
>
>
> Please note that the Planning Department has assigned staff planners
> to each CAC. They are interested in having them added to the agendas
> as we do with the Police and Parks & Recreation reports. I have
> attached a copy of the assignments. Feel free to contact the planners
> directly if you have specific items you wish to have them discuss.
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Serving with Excellence,
>
> Dwayne C. Patterson
> Neighborhood Services Supervisor
> Community Services Department
> 919.996.5710
>
> Website: Community Services Homepage
>
<http://www.raleigh-nc.org/portal/server.pt/gateway/PTARGS_0_0_306_204_0_43/
http;/pt03/dig_web_content/dept/public/Dept-AboutUs-ComSvcs.html>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* Silver, Mitchell
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:02 AM
> *To:* Patterson, Dwayne
> *Cc:* Rosselli, Kristen
> *Subject:* Planners attending CAC meetings
>
>
>
> Dwayne,
>
>
>
> Could you tell your CAC staff reps that the planners will start
> attending CAC meetings starting this evening. Each planner would like
> to give a brief planning update at each meeting, similar to the RPD
> updates. Thank you.
>
>
>
> */Mitchell Silver, PP, AICP/*
>
> Director,
>
> Department of City Planning & Urban Design Center
>
> One Exchange Plaza, PO Box 590
>
> Raleigh, NC 27602-0590
>
> 919.516.2625 phone
>
> 919.516.2684 fax
>
> e-mail: mitchell.silver(a)ci.raleigh.nc.us
>
> Department: www.raleighnc.gov/planning
<http://www.raleighnc.gov/planning>
>
> Comprehensive Plan: www.planningraleigh2030.com
> <http://www.planningraleigh2030.com>
>
> Zoning Code: www.NewRaleighCode.com
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to the
North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties by
an authorized City or Law Enforcement official."
11:23 a.m.
New subject: FW: Planners attending CAC meetings
I agree with Elizabeth. When I was chair of the RCAC, Elizabeth served as
the liaison between the RCAC and the Planning Department. She worked hard to
establish a more collaborative relationship between CAC leaders and the
Planning Department. The need for more timely information and expertise was
considered a very high priority.
Carter and I talked briefly about his new role yesterday. He will be
alerting me about planning cases / issues that affect my CAC and serve as a
planning technical advisor. We expect to get together regularly to talk
about stuff. I see Carter as an important resource as the City goes through
the rewrite of the development code.
Linda, I know you are new to your position and don't know the history that
preceded this decision. I do impose time limits on the RPD and Parks & Rec.
I personally don't believe I will have Carter give a report at every
meeting, but I do want him available at meetings to answer question and
ensure the authenticity of information communicated during the review of
planning cases. I also expect having Carter involved will save me time. I
won't have to spend so much time chasing after information. It might be
beneficial to have these support staff introduce each [;anning case, just
like they do at PC meetings. Call if I can be of assistance.
Philip W Poe
PWPoe(a)att.net
919.832.6777 voice
919.522.1078 mobile
919.832.6775 fax
-----Original Message-----
From: rcac-bounces(a)eastraleigh.org [mailto:rcac-bounces@eastraleigh.org] On
Behalf Of Elizabeth Byrd
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:12 AM
To: 'RCAC Discussion'
Subject: Re: [RCAC] FW: Planners attending CAC meetings
Having a planner at CAC meetings is a result of CAC discussions and requests
from a few years ago. (given that the comp. plan is done and the amount of
staff time needed to complete is over, they are now able to honor our
request)
It was discussed that there is a link missing between the planning
department and the CACs, as CAC chairs are not 'trained' on planning issues
and are not always made aware of important issues that could impact our
areas until it's too late.
Now it could meant that a particular agenda might not warrant a planner
being present, but in many instances discussions eventually work their way
around to some sort of planning/land use question or concern.
The Planning Department has worked hard to make this happen. I think it
might be helpful to find out what direction they have been given regarding
their attendance and participation.
Elizabeth
On 1/8/10 9:33 AM, "William A. Allen III" <will(a)allenheuer.com> wrote:
_______________________________________________
RCAC mailing list
RCAC(a)eastraleigh.org
http://www.eastraleigh.org/mailman/listinfo/rcac
_______________________________________________
RCAC mailing list
RCAC(a)eastraleigh.org
http://www.eastraleigh.org/mailman/listinfo/rcac
_______________________________________________
RCAC mailing list
RCAC(a)eastraleigh.org
http://www.eastraleigh.org/mailman/listinfo/rcac
If the Planning briefing is managed to be 10 minutes
or less, I
welcome it at every meeting. I see the presence of a Planning Dept
person as a good communication conduit between us and them, too. They
get a sense of what our issues are; we can direct questions for Planning
back
through them.
Will
William A. Allen III
919-349-6566 Mobile
-----Original Message-----
From: rcac-bounces(a)eastraleigh.org
[mailto:rcac-bounces@eastraleigh.org] On Behalf Of Mark Turner
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 9:20 AM
To: RCAC Discussion
Subject: Re: [RCAC] FW: Planners attending CAC meetings
You raise a valid concern. At East, we may choose to ask our planner
to attend our zoning committee meeting rather than the full CAC, as
his expertise would definitely be useful there.
I suppose its up to the individual CAC chairs and the planners as to
how they can best work together.
Mark
East CAC
Linda Watson wrote:
> I'm concerned about having three standard reports at every CAC
> meeting, taking up 15 - 30 minutes of time. At the Glenwood CAC
> meetings, the Police and Parks & Rec reports are largely the same
> every meeting. It's not an exciting way to start a meeting.
>
> Add in the new zoning cases and any community discussion and we
> barely have time for the feature presentations.
>
> While I'm glad to have representatives from all three departments
> available, perhaps it would be better to have them appear on the
> agenda on an as-needed basis.
>
> Could we could discuss this at the next RCAC meeting before changing
> all of our agendas?
>
> ... Linda
> Glenwood CAC
>
>
>
> Patterson, Dwayne wrote:
>>
>> RCAC Members,
>>
>>
>>
>> Please note that the Planning Department has assigned staff planners
>> to each CAC. They are interested in having them added to the
>> agendas as we do with the Police and Parks & Recreation reports. I
>> have attached a copy of the assignments. Feel free to contact the
>> planners directly if you have specific items you wish to have them
discuss.
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> Serving with Excellence,
>
> Dwayne C. Patterson
> Neighborhood Services Supervisor
> Community Services Department
> 919.996.5710
>
> Website: Community Services Homepage
>
<http://www.raleigh-nc.org/portal/server.pt/gateway/PTARGS_0_0_306_204
_0_43/
http;/pt03/dig_web_content/dept/public/Dept-AboutUs-ComSvcs.html>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
>
> *From:* Silver, Mitchell
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:02 AM
> *To:* Patterson, Dwayne
> *Cc:* Rosselli, Kristen
> *Subject:* Planners attending CAC meetings
>
>
>
> Dwayne,
>
>
>
> Could you tell your CAC staff reps that the planners will start
> attending CAC meetings starting this evening. Each planner would
> like to give a brief planning update at each meeting, similar to the
> RPD updates. Thank you.
>
>
>
> */Mitchell Silver, PP, AICP/*
>
> Director,
>
> Department of City Planning & Urban Design Center
>
> One Exchange Plaza, PO Box 590
>
> Raleigh, NC 27602-0590
>
> 919.516.2625 phone
>
> 919.516.2684 fax
>
> e-mail: mitchell.silver(a)ci.raleigh.nc.us
>
> Department: www.raleighnc.gov/planning
<http://www.raleighnc.gov/planning>
>
> Comprehensive Plan: www.planningraleigh2030.com
> <http://www.planningraleigh2030.com>
>
> Zoning Code: www.NewRaleighCode.com
>
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----
>
> "E-mail correspondence to and from this address may be subject to
> the
North Carolina Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third
parties by an authorized City or Law Enforcement official."
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